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Winging: Armstrong 2400 vs 1600

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Created by emmafoils 1 month ago, 17 Jun 2020
emmafoils
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17 Jun 2020 6:42PM
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I have been learning with the 2400 and am pleased with my progress so hesitant to change anything right now but also curious about my 1600. How much low end will I lose and does the 1600 pump better than the 2400?

Thanks

HubDekkers
15 posts
17 Jun 2020 7:20PM
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The 2400 will get on foil much much sooner compared to the 1600. I would also not think of replacement, but addition. You can keep the 2400 for light conditions and learning and the 1600 for progression and stronger conditions. Also, if I were you I would probably look more towards the 1550 instead of the 1600. This will give you much more possibilities in the future. And if you still have the 2400 you should be good in lighter conditions.

hilly
WA, 5484 posts
17 Jun 2020 8:14PM
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The 1600 is a fun wingding foil. It will need slightly more wind than the 2400 but turns way better. Was good with the +1 shim. 1550 has way less lift but is faster.

Foiled
WA, 31 posts
30 Jun 2020 6:05AM
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hilly said..
The 1600 is a fun wingding foil. It will need slightly more wind than the 2400 but turns way better. Was good with the +1 shim. 1550 has way less lift but is faster.


Hilly or anyone who has a HS1550 and CF2400. Do you use both wings for winging still and under what circumstances? I have the HS1550 but thinking about a bigger wing for lighter days, or won't I see much difference between the two? I'm 85KG and predominantly winging. Thanks!

hilly
WA, 5484 posts
30 Jun 2020 10:21AM
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Foiled said..Hilly or anyone who has a HS1550 and CF2400. Do you use both wings for winging still and under what circumstances? I have the HS1550 but thinking about a bigger wing for lighter days, or won't I see much difference between the two? I'm 85KG and predominantly winging. Thanks!

Massive difference. The 2400 is better in light wind for me being 105kg, I struggle to get the 1550 going below 15 knots. The 2400 is slower, more stable and will get over done easily in a gust or dropping into a wave compared to the 1550. With the +1 shim it is super fun for small waves and light wind. I am getting the 1850 and would recommend you do to unless you want to get out in sub 10 knot conditions. It will be faster and better turning with more lift than the 1550. I use a chopped 232 tail. A bigger tail will give you a lower bottom end especially with the 0 shim.

HubDekkers
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30 Jun 2020 2:04PM
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Foiled said..

hilly said..
The 1600 is a fun wingding foil. It will need slightly more wind than the 2400 but turns way better. Was good with the +1 shim. 1550 has way less lift but is faster.



Hilly or anyone who has a HS1550 and CF2400. Do you use both wings for winging still and under what circumstances? I have the HS1550 but thinking about a bigger wing for lighter days, or won't I see much difference between the two? I'm 85KG and predominantly winging. Thanks!


I have and use both the 2400 and 1550. I use the 2400 in very light conditions and only exclusively with a 5m wing. I also use it for learning transitions as it is a very stable platform which is still relatively fast. In downwinders I also use it when the waves are really small and lack power.

As soon as the wind picks up I swap down to the 1550 (with a 4m wing). It is faster (+5k per hours or so) and more responsive. I also use this wing for jumping. I find the 2400 is really big (too big) when it hits the water.

The 1850 might be a nice one in the middle. As soon as it is in I'll test it extensively...

Hope this helps...

Foiled
WA, 31 posts
30 Jun 2020 7:18PM
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HubDekkers said..

Foiled said..


hilly said..
The 1600 is a fun wingding foil. It will need slightly more wind than the 2400 but turns way better. Was good with the +1 shim. 1550 has way less lift but is faster.




Hilly or anyone who has a HS1550 and CF2400. Do you use both wings for winging still and under what circumstances? I have the HS1550 but thinking about a bigger wing for lighter days, or won't I see much difference between the two? I'm 85KG and predominantly winging. Thanks!



I have and use both the 2400 and 1550. I use the 2400 in very light conditions and only exclusively with a 5m wing. I also use it for learning transitions as it is a very stable platform which is still relatively fast. In downwinders I also use it when the waves are really small and lack power.

As soon as the wind picks up I swap down to the 1550 (with a 4m wing). It is faster (+5k per hours or so) and more responsive. I also use this wing for jumping. I find the 2400 is really big (too big) when it hits the water.

The 1850 might be a nice one in the middle. As soon as it is in I'll test it extensively...

Hope this helps...


Thanks!

Foiled
WA, 31 posts
30 Jun 2020 7:19PM
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hilly said..

Foiled said..Hilly or anyone who has a HS1550 and CF2400. Do you use both wings for winging still and under what circumstances? I have the HS1550 but thinking about a bigger wing for lighter days, or won't I see much difference between the two? I'm 85KG and predominantly winging. Thanks!


Massive difference. The 2400 is better in light wind for me being 105kg, I struggle to get the 1550 going below 15 knots. The 2400 is slower, more stable and will get over done easily in a gust or dropping into a wave compared to the 1550. With the +1 shim it is super fun for small waves and light wind. I am getting the 1850 and would recommend you do to unless you want to get out in sub 10 knot conditions. It will be faster and better turning with more lift than the 1550. I use a chopped 232 tail. A bigger tail will give you a lower bottom end especially with the 0 shim.


Thanks Hilly. Good info!

bhc
VIC, 136 posts
30 Jun 2020 10:40PM
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Interested in light wind (10-18knots) winging, weigh 76-78kg, prefer windsurfing over 18knots.

Not after high-speed, maybe downwinding down the track.

What would be the best of the following combos:
4m wing and 2400 foil
4m wing and 1850 foil
5m wing and 1550 foil
5m wing and 1600 foil

hilly
WA, 5484 posts
30 Jun 2020 9:18PM
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bhc said..
Interested in light wind (10-18knots) winging, weigh 76-78kg, prefer windsurfing over 18knots.

Not after high-speed, maybe downwinding down the track.

What would be the best of the following combos:
4m wing and 2400 foil
4m wing and 1850 foil
5m wing and 1550 foil
5m wing and 1600 foil


5m 1850



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