Fanatic Allwave 9'8" x 33" x 187 litre

An Allwave is a nice easy to surf small wave board.

It is a shape that is quite easy to turn from the middle/front foot - although i'd argue almost all boards surf better from the tail.

On really small runners, it can be really hard to get to the back of the board. If you do, you can end up dropping off the back of the wave. I find what works best for me on really small waves is making my stance as wide as possible (even if my back foot isn't all the way back), it allows me to get a lower centre of gravity and work the board harder.

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Hoppo3228 said..
An Allwave is a nice easy to surf small wave board.

It is a shape that is quite easy to turn from the middle/front foot - although i'd argue almost all boards surf better from the tail.

On really small runners, it can be really hard to get to the back of the board. If you do, you can end up dropping off the back of the wave. I find what works best for me on really small waves is making my stance as wide as possible (even if my back foot isn't all the way back), it allows me to get a lower centre of gravity and work the board harder.

Thanks for the advice Hoppo. Much appreciated. Because I'm so tall, I'm slowly getting my stance wider and lower. It's helping me taking off on slightly steeper waves without falling off the back of the board.

I'm going to call the owner of the Allwave and see if I can get a try on it.

Hey do you mind if I ask a really dumb beginner question? On my big board, when I'm surfing long runners, sometimes I can make it to a soft shoulder and paddle out gracefully over the back of the wave. Other times, my big tanker just refuses to pull out and I end up stuck on the wave until I just about hit the sand. Then I can only jump off the board and, at speed, end up jarring my ankles and heels when I hit the sand. You got any advice for injury free pull outs in shallow water?

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KneeloMike said..

Hoppo3228 said..
An Allwave is a nice easy to surf small wave board.

It is a shape that is quite easy to turn from the middle/front foot - although i'd argue almost all boards surf better from the tail.

On really small runners, it can be really hard to get to the back of the board. If you do, you can end up dropping off the back of the wave. I find what works best for me on really small waves is making my stance as wide as possible (even if my back foot isn't all the way back), it allows me to get a lower centre of gravity and work the board harder.

Thanks for the advice Hoppo. Much appreciated. Because I'm so tall, I'm slowly getting my stance wider and lower. It's helping me taking off on slightly steeper waves without falling off the back of the board.

I'm going to call the owner of the Allwave and see if I can get a try on it.

Hey do you mind if I ask a really dumb beginner question? On my big board, when I'm surfing long runners, sometimes I can make it to a soft shoulder and paddle out gracefully over the back of the wave. Other times, my big tanker just refuses to pull out and I end up stuck on the wave until I just about hit the sand. Then I can only jump off the board and, at speed, end up jarring my ankles and heels when I hit the sand. You got any advice for injury free pull outs in shallow water?

If I can't get off the waves gracefully I jump over the wave and let the board do it's thing. Riding in a wave breaking over shallow sand is a good way to hurt your spine or ankles.

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KneeloMike said..

Hoppo3228 said..
An Allwave is a nice easy to surf small wave board.

It is a shape that is quite easy to turn from the middle/front foot - although i'd argue almost all boards surf better from the tail.

On really small runners, it can be really hard to get to the back of the board. If you do, you can end up dropping off the back of the wave. I find what works best for me on really small waves is making my stance as wide as possible (even if my back foot isn't all the way back), it allows me to get a lower centre of gravity and work the board harder.

Thanks for the advice Hoppo. Much appreciated. Because I'm so tall, I'm slowly getting my stance wider and lower. It's helping me taking off on slightly steeper waves without falling off the back of the board.

I'm going to call the owner of the Allwave and see if I can get a try on it.

Hey do you mind if I ask a really dumb beginner question? On my big board, when I'm surfing long runners, sometimes I can make it to a soft shoulder and paddle out gracefully over the back of the wave. Other times, my big tanker just refuses to pull out and I end up stuck on the wave until I just about hit the sand. Then I can only jump off the board and, at speed, end up jarring my ankles and heels when I hit the sand. You got any advice for injury free pull outs in shallow water?

No such thing as a dumb question mate

Speed is your friend here. You've gotta get in front of the curl to turn off the back. If you're caught too far behind the whitewater, jump off (if nobody is in danger). But jump into the wave, not the flat. Also make your body as big as you can, to minimise impact if you hit the bottom if it's shallow.

If you get the Allwave, practice pumping for speed on the wave. With a thruster / quad, it's easier to do than on a single fin.

Watch Rick surf his Skate here: He pumps up and down the wave for speed. Ends up on the shoulder where he'll either cut back or turn off the wave.

Around Bells/Torquay in Vicco mate

Rick has lots of vids on youtube and is very giving with his advice on Sunova boards.

The Kanga looks sweet as an all round Surf Sup - Ian Cairns knows a thing or two on what works!

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KneeloMike said..

Hoppo3228 said..
An Allwave is a nice easy to surf small wave board.

It is a shape that is quite easy to turn from the middle/front foot - although i'd argue almost all boards surf better from the tail.

On really small runners, it can be really hard to get to the back of the board. If you do, you can end up dropping off the back of the wave. I find what works best for me on really small waves is making my stance as wide as possible (even if my back foot isn't all the way back), it allows me to get a lower centre of gravity and work the board harder.

Thanks for the advice Hoppo. Much appreciated. Because I'm so tall, I'm slowly getting my stance wider and lower. It's helping me taking off on slightly steeper waves without falling off the back of the board.

I'm going to call the owner of the Allwave and see if I can get a try on it.

Hey do you mind if I ask a really dumb beginner question? On my big board, when I'm surfing long runners, sometimes I can make it to a soft shoulder and paddle out gracefully over the back of the wave. Other times, my big tanker just refuses to pull out and I end up stuck on the wave until I just about hit the sand. Then I can only jump off the board and, at speed, end up jarring my ankles and heels when I hit the sand. You got any advice for injury free pull outs in shallow water?

Hi Kneelo

Shallow water on small waves is the easiest place to get hurt, exactly as you say.... jumping off and trying to land on your feet is a very easy way to really hurt something.

I am ALWAYS wearing a knee brace because my right knee is super weak, so any bad landing could end my surfing career.
So... I almost NEVER jump or step off in the shallows

I also never dive over the wave.
Why? when my feet leave the board, I lose control of it..... the wave can bounce it back into me.
So I always leave my feet on the board until I have me and the board in the safest position to avoid injury.

My feet tell me where the board is, and control where it goes.

To do this, I must "control my exit" by making my move before the wave takes control.
If I bail just 1 second early, I get to control the fall.
I generally kick the board forward, toward the shoulder, and fall flat, off the back of the board... INTO the wave, to cushion the fall.
Like and airbag... you don't need much depth to land safely if you can use the whitewater or the face of the wave to add depth to the water.
I keep my paddle between me and the board and up, so it goes under last to avoid falling on it.

This all takes awareness and practice, but is easy to learn.... just push the board forward as you fall back, keeping your feet ON the board till you are in the water (see pics)

My friends that dive over the back of the wave run the risk of breaking the board or get hit by the board as the wave bounces it into them. Once they leave the board, the wave can do some surprising things, like bounce it right back up at you as you dive over.

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supthecreek said..

KneeloMike said..

Hoppo3228 said..
An Allwave is a nice easy to surf small wave board.

It is a shape that is quite easy to turn from the middle/front foot - although i'd argue almost all boards surf better from the tail.

On really small runners, it can be really hard to get to the back of the board. If you do, you can end up dropping off the back of the wave. I find what works best for me on really small waves is making my stance as wide as possible (even if my back foot isn't all the way back), it allows me to get a lower centre of gravity and work the board harder.

Thanks for the advice Hoppo. Much appreciated. Because I'm so tall, I'm slowly getting my stance wider and lower. It's helping me taking off on slightly steeper waves without falling off the back of the board.

I'm going to call the owner of the Allwave and see if I can get a try on it.

Hey do you mind if I ask a really dumb beginner question? On my big board, when I'm surfing long runners, sometimes I can make it to a soft shoulder and paddle out gracefully over the back of the wave. Other times, my big tanker just refuses to pull out and I end up stuck on the wave until I just about hit the sand. Then I can only jump off the board and, at speed, end up jarring my ankles and heels when I hit the sand. You got any advice for injury free pull outs in shallow water?

Hi Kneelo

Shallow water on small waves is the easiest place to get hurt, exactly as you say.... jumping off and trying to land on your feet is a very easy way to really hurt something.

I am ALWAYS wearing a knee brace because my right knee is super weak, so any bad landing could end my surfing career.
So... I almost NEVER jump or step off in the shallows

I also never dive over the wave.
Why? when my feet leave the board, I lose control of it..... the wave can bounce it back into me.
So I always leave my feet on the board until I have me and the board in the safest position to avoid injury.

My feet tell me where the board is, and control where it goes.

To do this, I must "control my exit" by making my move before the wave takes control.
If I bail just 1 second early, I get to control the fall.
I generally kick the board forward, toward the shoulder, and fall flat, off the back of the board... INTO the wave, to cushion the fall.
Like and airbag... you don't need much depth to land safely if you can use the whitewater or the face of the wave to add depth to the water.
I keep my paddle between me and the board and up, so it goes under last to avoid falling on it.

This all takes awareness and practice, but is easy to learn.... just push the board forward as you fall back, keeping your feet ON the board till you are in the water (see pics)

My friends that dive over the back of the wave run the risk of breaking the board or get hit by the board as the wave bounces it into them. Once they leave the board, the wave can do some surprising things, like bounce it right back up at you as you dive over.

Hi Rick

As usual, thanks so much for the time, thought and pictures you put into your post. Really helpful.

Coincidentally, yesterday I did the last picture paddling late up a steep face. I went down and the nose of the board came up and smacked me fair in the ribs. Nothing broken but a bit sore today!

Hey guys

Thanks heaps to you all on the 9'8" Fanatic Allwave which I picked up on Friday.

Very, very surprised how stable and comfortable the 187 litre, 33" wide Allwave is compared to my 235 litre, 34" wide Fanatic Fly. Only had it out in choppy mush so far and I think it handles mush better than the big board.

Surfing wise, I've got a lot of trial and error to do finding the sweet spots for my feet placement. At the moment I'm tending to either miss the wave or if I do get down the face catch my front, left rail when I try to turn right. I saw on a Supboarder video the Allwaves have a tendency to do that if you're not right with your footwork.

I'm watching every Allwave video I can find in slow motion checking out feet placement. Initially, just trying to drive it from the middle before graduating to the tail

Really excited about the Allwave. On my first surf, I actually managed one sweet bottom turn which was like a sneak preview of what's in store in future!